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>> well, not ongoing, but what's left to do as of now. >> sure, 24th street, number of violations about roof leaks, electric heaters installed in six units without permits. window sashes in disrepair. missing handrails or handrails installed improperly. and the roofing, there's several layers of roof. i haven't been up in a roof. i have some pictures. there's going to be at least three layers in certain areas. there's probably four or five or -- and the composition of the roofing is so worn out that it's actually frayed. so, and there are no permits forever having reroofed. so, i would expect that the
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original roof, the wood shingle roof is there. and, again, there's at least three layers of roof and i would guess more like four or five. >> through the chair, inspector, when you itemized those items, they're not huge dollar amount items in the picture of -- >> that's right. the roofing is certainly -- >> probably the highest. yeah. so, they're not really high. the other question i have for you, have you ever met the contractor out there? >> i don't believe i have. >> has ever been a contractor assigned -- >> she's had -- she has people who work for her. they have never been introduced to me as contractors. i view them more as laborers. >> okay, thank you. >> commissioner mel gar. >> do you know if there are any children under 6 living in any of these buildings? >> i don't know, but i don't
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believe so. >> okay, thank you. >> rosemary, do you know the cause of the fire? >> of the property that's now before you, the 3300 block, i don't know exactly what caused the fire. there were open violations at that building, which included smoke detectors and an illegal unit down on the ground floor area of that building and we did issue an emergency order at that location. >> no more questions for the department. appellant's rebuttal. [inaudible] electrical permits and the other permits, there was also another hearing on june 21st and they said there was -- there were no
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permits for the back staircase. i did get a permit in 2010. and it was completed. that was for the back staircase. and also the repeated violation notices about the heaters, they said they couldn't find any permit. i went to the permit section and found the permits within two minutes. they were to comply with the 3r report for the condo conversion. and i had the electrical inspection -- you have to get a physical inspection, and they -- ah, let's see. for the condo conversions, you have to do that. , and so, the electrical inspectors came out and they, you know, say on their reports
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what they want and then you comply with them. i had the electrical on both buildings. i was able to find it right away. so, they didn't spend a lot of time. for my experience, they don't spend a lot of time and i'm always accused of not having permits. i have to present them. and as i said, it's a very toxic relationship and i really have to have that changed. i'm 62 years old and, you know, i just can't take it any more. that's what i'm hoping for, some sort of change, but sounds like it's not going to [inaudible]. >> so, you say you do have permits for the heaters. yes. >> do you have them with you? i have -- these are from my 3825 through 29 [inaudible]. 38
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31 through 35. this was 2009. this was for 2009. i have my -- did i give you my clcs? i don't seem to have them. >> yes. oh, okay. that's the revocation. [inaudible] comply with building and electrical and plumbing. so, there's conflicts between these departments and, you know, according to the building department, they passed it for the code violation, they were corrected. so, there's conflicts.
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>> commissioners, any questions? thank you. anybody care to make a motion or ask more questions? commissioner walker. >> i think that the conditions of these buildings is -- makes these uninhabitable even though people are living in them. and the issues of uncommitted electric heaters, those type of things, make it a real risk for fire. so, i would like to make a motion to uphold the
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department's recommendation, the abatement, and maybe allow for 30 days to take out permits and resolve these issues. >> i second that motion. >> so, i just want to clarify what commissioner walker said. so, could you flesh out -- you're basically saying that you find that -- the v. laytions that the department has issued on these properties are habitability issues, and make the buildings unsafe to occupy, even though they are occupied. and the potential risk for fire, the mold that we see, and the evident presented all are health risks for the people living in them. therefore, i believe that it is imperative for us to support
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the department's action of abatement and -- and allow for the maximum, i would, of 30 days to take out the permits and cure these notices of violation. * >> okay. so, if i could just clarify, then, you're moving to uphold the order of abatement? >> yes. uphold the order of abatement. allowing 30 days to complete the work based on your finding that the evidence as presented by dbi supports the director's order of abatement as i issued it? >> yes. that's correct. >> can i ask a point of information, if i may? is the motion that -- to issue a 30-day order of abatement? >> yes. >> and is that for agenda items 1 through 5? >> 1 through 5. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you.
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>> call a vote, sonya. >> is there any public comment on the item? >> none. >> seeing none, call the roll call. on the motion -- >> do you have a second? >> commissioner mel gar seconded it. president clench? >> yes. >> vice president mel gar? >> yes. >> commissioner lee? >> yes, i believe 30 days is fair because the type of violations left are not long and large items. we should be able to take care of it in 30* days, so, yes. >> commissioner mar? >> yes. >> commissioner mccarthy? >> yes. >> commissioner mccray? >> yes. >> commissioner walker? >> yes.
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>> the motion carries and the order of abatement is upheld. * >> item d, general public comment. is there any general public comment on regarding the abatement appeals board? >> seeing none. >> seeing none, item e, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> we are now adjourned at 9:55 a.m. we'll take about a ten-minute recess and reconvene as the building inspection commission..
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>> (roll call). we have a quorum and the next item on the agenda is president's announcements. >> thank you, madam secretary. obviously welcome everyone here today, the last meeting before the end of the year. we
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will wish everybody happy holidays. so what we have is acting director tom huey participated in a media briefing at the site of the hacker pool house with the director of recreation and parks, phil ginsburg. dbi acting director huey signed an emergency order early letter this month when a fire caused sufficient structural damage to make the building an imminent public safety hazard. demolition is currently underway. bill pointed out to me a very interesting article in the front of the san francisco chronicle today is good to give you history on that. the fire department and one of the equipment manufacturers have donated new carbon monoxide detections and smoke
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detectors which dbi will give away to the public during our outreach event. we are delighted to give away these devices and assurance compliance with state law requiring their installation both in single family homes, and that's effective january 1, 2013, and multi family homes also. also we are having a modest get together, everybody should come, children and family members are welcome, it will be held tomorrow, december 20, after pm and take part in the joy and festivities.
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>> is there any public comment on the president's announcements? seeing none, item 3, general public comment. the bic will take public comment on matters within the commission's jurisdiction that are not part of this agenda. >> form, commissioners, henry --. >> i just need to read it for the record here. member s of the public may address the commission on items not appearing on the agenda for a period of time not to exceed 3 minutes. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. thank you. okay, henry. >> thank you, commissioner, president mccarthy, sorry. i am a member of san francisco for responsible growth and wanted to report to you under the leadership of acting director tom huey, deputy
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director and tony greco, i want to say thanks, happy holidays and we'll see you next year. >> happy holidays. >> good morning, commissioners, i will read a prepared statement. my name is spencer gash, i have been a building inspector for this department for 22 years. i have also been a resident of san francisco for 32 years. i would first like to request persons with an interest in this department and its malfunction to come to these building inspection meetings. they are on this commission is responsible for the oversight of that department. to verify that i would like to cite two sections from pop position g, the commission shall organize, reorganize and manage the
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department. from section 3.698-1, the department of building inspection should be under the management of a building inspection commission consisting of 7 members. your willful refusal to provide that oversight has resulted in the situation i will describe. other agencies aiding and abeting this commission's willful refusal to oversee, the policy of your political appointees is obviously to keep the department as dysfunctional as possible. this is evidenced by, among other things, by no written directives have been issued for 5-plus years. there are no written policies and procedures in effect. training has been abandoned except in legally hazard area situations,
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ie the capps program. there is rampant racism. permanent applicants, property owners, business owners and employees. politically favored employees are given positions with less oversight and authority so they can do personal tasks while working for the city. while the situation requires a lack of morality on the part of the employees i also believe this constitutes veting of who is suitable for promotion. those less favored are given poor job assignments, closely watched, unjustly disciplined and otherwise harassed while also required to do the work of the goof-offs. as hards department's customers in addition to fleecing them of as frp money as possible, evidenced by the department's use of an unauthorized permit routing procedure to see the application everywhere possible to see if some additional fees
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can't be tacked on to the permit costs. the fees collected are not kept and spent by this department but by the administer of finance with director hue's approval. of course the more money the mayor gets the more likely he is to keep the appointees around. this department leaves little money for the department to function although --. >> thank you. >> i'm going to finish the sentence. >> you are off, you are not allowed -- your 3 minutes is up, sir. thank you very much. >> handsomely compensated political appointees to keep the lid on the stew pot --. >> next speaker. >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, item 4, updates and status on
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capses recommendations. >> good morning, commissioners, my name is patrick odelaney, director of san francisco safety for san francisco, tasked with picking up the capss recommendations. thank you for the invitation to come speak this morning, i am excited to have the building inspection commission partner with us and be involved with what from our history has been a driving force to make this happen. we are excited to announce we are going to be introducing legislation in early 2013. this soft story ordinance is going to be for
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wood framed buildings, within that subset of buildings there's probably about 4500 buildings that meet that criteria. of those 4500 buildings we assume that about 2800 to 2900 would be soft stories and would be required to do a mandatory soft story retrofit. what's nice to this as opposed to when the soft story task force finished up their work a few years ago, there were a lot of unknowns. the largest one i heard a few years ago was how are people going to pay for this? we have met with several private lenders and we have been developing finance products to make sure that people subject to this ordinance have a means to pay for it and have an access to financing. it's really been a neat experience to reconvene some of the players that were involved earlier. there's no longer a soft story task force
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but what we have now is an earthquake safety working group which president mccarthy is going to cochair with me. now we can get into the meat of the implementation. the policy work done to create this ordinance was due to a lot of efforts by community leaders, and world leaders in earthquake safety. we have a very good product moving forward and my goal as director is to make sure the legislation city hall passes is given to the building inspection in a form they can implement it. often in the past what was waisted without their input it's a piece of legislation they can't use. i want to be sure this is useful and it runs smoothly through its implementation process and sets the stage for our 30 year work plan. last month we sent
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out a notice to every private school in san francisco, not accusing them of anything, not saying you are in an unsafe building, saying you are not required to meet safety standards, let's have a conversation. i'm pleased to inform you we have had several come forward and we continue to outreach them and we look forward to working with them. again, those are just two examples of our 30 year work plan. most of you have seen the 30 year work plan, i brought a few extra copies in case any of you haven't seen it. i only have 3 copies, if more are needd i have more in my office and i'll be happy to provide them to anyone. it takes the task force recommendations and puts them in a timeline. priorities can change but now it's a nice plan and implementation has started well. several of these tasks
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are well underway and it's nice to see some progress made and to see some support not only from the city administrator but also from the mayor and it's our goal to make sure all san franciscoans are safe and sheltered in place after a multi seismic event. >> commissioner ?oo ?a i'm so glad you guys are this far along, that's really great. i had a couple questions. >> sure. >> is that work plan available online? >> absolutely, it's under the city administrator's work site. right now it's a very simple work site, right now the only thing there is this and the report. >> in pdf >> yes.
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>> one of the things we learned after katrina, unfortunately, is that natural disasters affect poor people in a much more acute way because they don't have the resources to deal with this kind of stuff. i'm wondering as you are launching this effort what specifically your department's working, you know, how your collaboratively involving nonprofit organizations and organizations that serve the poor, both the housing side for the nonprofit lending, but also just facilities. have you done work with the mayor's office of community development and housing or how is that working out? >> sure. i can talk to a couple of those points. as far as financing goes, this was a big deal. when the soft story task force got together, how is a nonprofit operator that can hardly pay its operating costs --. >> for profits as well, right? >> sure, but focusing on
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nonprofits for a second. while the details haven't been ironed out, we have been in discussions about providing low interest loans which is going to be further discussed at a finance summit we're going to be holding with the mayor in january. that will not only have nonprofit lenders but credit lenders and other lenders interested in being part of this. i was very touched, these are small loans in the grand scheme of things and honestly they are not going to make a lot of money but overwhelmingly they said we are part of san francisco and we want to be part of this. personally i was very touched and i am excited to get this meeting together. we have been working with ram part, they know that we want to approach this the right way,
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protect tenants and understand that the best thing we can do is make sure the 59,000 san franciscoans that live in these soft story buildings are able to shelter in place after an earthquake. between meeting with them and other various tenant groups we have got our head around these issues and i think we're addressing them accurately. >> commissioner walker. >> great to hear that you are moving these things forward. you talked about the early 2013 introduction of a soft story program. is it a mandatory program and when in 2013. >> early in 2013, the specific date is not known yet because it's up to the board of supervisors that will be introducing it. ordinance is being prepared, reviewed by the city attorney right now, we hope to have those comments completed very shortly. it is a mandatory system with a 4 tier system. we don't want to flood dbi with all these
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permits all at once. we want to be sure that people have time to implement this. it would have a mandatory year-long praus inspection process. if property owners are not subject to this there's an easy opt-out, it's not going to cost them a lot of money to demonstrate they don't have to comply. obviously we want a check and balance in there so nefarious owners don't skate by. the advantage of doing that, on soft story spaces you have either commercial spaces or parking on the first floor so this work can be done without displacing tenants. >> is there a discussion about helping commercial entities that might be displaced, that was one. things that came up. >> absolutely and that was a consideration. given my past
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experience working with commercial tenants, the types of seismic upgrades we're talking about can be limited, theoretically you can keep the space open. ideally our goal is not to displace any of these 10 amounts. these spaces have the equivalent of 7,000 employees. >> you said it's a year long evaluation. what is the end goal if a mandatory program is in existence, we hope to have them all upgraded by --. >> 2020. the idea would be that within that year evaluation you would be able to determine which of the 4 tiers you would fit in and from there you would be on a timeline associated with that ranging all the way up to 2020. >> i agree with commissioner melgar's concern about the low income community, especially
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our tenant community, a lot of whom are in these buildings. i would suggest that you might outreach to our code enforcement outreach program who are in constant contact with the tenant community in these type of building and i think there are some members of those organizations here. >> great. we've already tried to do a tremendous amount of outreach to that community and if there's any other players involved in san francisco that you think we should be in touch with, i'll be happy to talk to you offline, do that list and do that outreach. >> thank you, and thank you for putting this forward. many of us were involved in the capss discussions over the years and the more you know, the more you realize how urgently this is needed. >> thank you. to that point, one of the things i'm excited about is i'm involved with not only the capss project and the bpr project, i've seen things go through the city where you end up with a very nice-looking rt

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